Surviving 2025: Emotional Go-Bags, Evolving Together, and Finding Joy in Challenging Times (114)

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Speaker 1
We're just going to try something and then we can change it and we'll go with that.

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The theme of life.

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Speaker 1
Yes, that is the theme of life. And listener. That is the theme of this podcast.

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Speaker 1
Hey, listeners, welcome back to How the Wise One Grows.

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Speaker 1
Today's episode is a little bit different. We are with Kelly and we are talking about how we're surviving 2025 and how this podcast is evolving to help us through it. We're here, we're trying new things. We're figuring it out as we go right alongside you.

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Speaker 1
So tune in and join us on this wild ride. As we figure it out together.

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Speaker 1
Before we dive in, let's take a deep breath in through the nose and out through the mouth.

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Speaker 1
the theme of life. And listener. That is the theme of this podcast. Today we have Kelly, and you have met Kelly in some previous episodes, but I've never really said anything about Kelly really, or why she's here. But Kelly is the best and she is making this podcast so much better. And we just kind of wanted to check in with you and let you know, like what we're doing with the podcast as we're figuring it out, because truthfully, it's a lot of work and we don't really know what we're doing.

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Speaker 1
And it's evolving just as we are evolving in life. So you're going to be hearing a lot more from Kelly in all these conversations, and I'm just so excited that she's here to bring in life.

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Speaker 3
Our sweet Kelly excited to be here. I will we'll talk so.

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Speaker 2
Much more probably about pooping our pants.

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Speaker 1
And yes.

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Speaker 2
All kinds of shenanigans. That's typically where we end up though, is is shitting our pants stories.

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Speaker 1
I mean, 2025, to be real kind of feels like shitting your pants so far.

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Speaker 2
I literally, I think this is not it's probably not an uncommon experience that I keep catching myself saying things like, oh, in the first three weeks of January. And then I stopped myself and I'm like, It's January 15th as of when we're recording this. I literally did that the first time I did it that I specifically said probably for like the first three weeks of the year was January 8th.

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Speaker 3
It was that one to me in one day. I was it was to me. I didn't realize that. I just, I.

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Feel like I have been like oh.

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Speaker 3
God what a year ever. And I keep being like we just started.

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Speaker 1
It is just the beginning and it is wild and honestly like that's a big part of I feel like what we're just going to do here together on this because. I don't know any other way to get through this than like.

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Speaker 3
Through.

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Speaker 1
Each other, you know? And we can do that through, like, our friendships and our communities with one another. But I also like, really want this podcast to be a community, too. That's like helping us get one another and support one another through like, yes, 2025, like all of the life stuff we've been through because we we have been through some shit and we're about to go, we are going through more and we are going to continue going through more.

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Speaker 1
And our communities and our connections with one another and as much support and care and also like humor and levity and lightness and enjoy that we can find and share with one another that I feel like is the through line right now.

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Speaker 2
Yes, literally. I think like the biggest thing that has kind of stuck with me because I will also, I will say for the listener that last week Holly and I hopped on our face time and we were like, what.

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Speaker 3
Do we want? This? What do we want.

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Speaker 2
This to be like? And Holly, in your beautiful way, started it off with like, how do we want to feel and how do we want the listener to feel? And what do we watch like instead of like, what's our goal? Like productivity wise? Like, what numbers are we going to reach? And whatever it was like, what what.

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Do we want.

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Speaker 2
To create with us and what kind of community community do we want? And I think one thing that was really important to both of us is, I mean, Holly has been doing this for a long time. I've never done podcasting until the beautiful, fun episodes that I've gotten to hop on with you and I think that both of us, as well as probably so many other people, are just like, yeah, desperate for a little bit of levity and community.

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Speaker 2
And I think that, like when you and I were talking last week, it felt like something where I realized that I was feeling so tense and intimidated coming into that meeting when I looked at it as like a meeting of like, what are this is going to be a business and what do we want to accomplish? And then as soon as it was like, oh, wait, like we're we're just human beings and we're just kind of trying to fuck around and see what sticks.

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Speaker 2
And, and the idea that a podcast could be of like, exactly in community with the listeners so that you're there with us at the same time, and you can always be in conversation with us being like, this is what I'm going through right now, and I would love it if you did an episode on this or like, I want to learn more about this or whatever, because I think that we both were just like.

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What are we going to do with some of.

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Speaker 2
The life things that are coming up, some.

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Speaker 3
Of the.

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Directions our world is taking.

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This year, and it can be really.

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Overwhelming. And it exactly is that thing of like just a network of good humans being like, we got each other. We got we got support, we're all here for each other. And yeah, we're just going to do the.

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Speaker 3
Best we can and see what happens. Baby, that's what life is.

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Speaker 1
That's literally all we can do and that's all we're doing. And I think it's just like, yeah, there can't be any pretending.

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Speaker 3
Like.

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Speaker 1
We are all just figuring it out. And I think the more honest and open we are about that, especially through the times we're living through, like that's going to nurture us so much more. And like something we said that I just want to like name on here for the listener. Like, I just want this to be your front blanket.

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Speaker 1
Like on those days where you're like, I like, so desperately need someone to just like, take care of me, but I have no capacity, no energy to give. It's just like, listen to the podcast. This is your friend blanket. You can just listen to us doing the thing and feel helped by that and like, yeah, know that we're here holding you and we're here holding each other and we're just going to like, wrap the biggest little podcast from blanket around everyone that we can.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And I love maybe we'll make a cool fort with it too, because we also like you gotta find the joy, gotta find the play when we can play it like so important to.

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Speaker 2
Absolutely. That's I like. Yeah I feel like when you said the friend blanket I was like, that's perfect. Because all I ever want to do is just nap in a room where people I love are having conversations that don't involve me so I can just.

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Speaker 3
Be like, yeah.

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Speaker 2
I can listen in and laugh at the funny things they say and like.

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Speaker 3
Feel like familiar.

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Speaker 2
Voices and also just be like, I'm just tired and I'm just going to.

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Rest my eyes and that's low.

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Speaker 2
And yeah, and then occasionally I'll wake up and be like, let's.

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Speaker 3
Make a fort. Here we go.

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Speaker 1
Now, tan. Now I feel like.

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Speaker 3
That's one.

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Speaker 1
Of the hardest things making friends growing up is like, I'm like, I want to be around people, but I have no energy and no capacity to give. Like, you just want to sit on a couch with your best friend who you like, don't even have to talk to, and you can just veg out with. And yes, we can't always do that.

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Speaker 1
So, hit the play button and we'll just have our little friendly,

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I have a little, just anecdote of one of those beautiful, lovely times that happened last night that I please like.

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This is so beautiful because I think we just meet so many of those little.

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Resting.

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Spots.

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Speaker 2
And yesterday I was like in that exact place, like at work I was like struggling so hard to keep my eyes open was just like oh my gosh I don't have like I don't have a time to myself that's not already scheduled with something for a very long time. And that is something that I find so exhausting when.

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Speaker 2
And I just want to cancel everything.

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Speaker 3
Yes, yes, like.

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Speaker 2
And even if it's a fun plan I'm like I just need, I just need to like plank face down on my bed and not talk to anyone. Yes. For like a week and then I'll be fine.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Then I'm ready for all the things and then I'll be ready.

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Speaker 2
And then I'll be like touch starved and be like.

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Speaker 3
Someone talk to me. Yes. But like I feel like.

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Speaker 2
Yesterday at work, I was doing that thing. And I had plans last night to drive to.

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A.

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Friend's house, basically like my best friend. It's her friend from college who, she and I are like new friends, and we keep being like.

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We should really hang out. We live in the same state. Like, why don't we? So it's more a.

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Speaker 1
Bonus, homie, it's me, but somewhere.

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Speaker 3
And yes.

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Speaker 2
It's a bonus, homie. It's another bonus homie.

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Speaker 1
Just six lane a bonus homie. So Kelly and I are like connected by our mutual best friend Emma. And now Kelly and I are bonus homies. It's like the friend that you get from your best friend and it is the coolest. Highly recommend. Yes.

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Speaker 2
And I have to shout out, Tatiana Joyce, who is the person who is my bonus homie taught me bonus homie for the first time. But yeah. So last night was basically another. It was like Liz is in town, my best friend who lives in Paris, she's in town for just a few more days, so I was definitely not going to like cancel plans.

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Speaker 2
I was like.

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
I'm going, but I'm so tired. And just the idea of doing anything, even though it's fun, sounds so overwhelming. And it was literally Liz was like, do you want to meet me? And our friend Grace, and Grace and her husband just had a little baby, so they live a little bit farther away than I feel like I would have normally driven on a on a weeknight, but I was like, absolutely, you have a newborn baby.

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Like, let's have the lowest, the lowest pressure hang and we'll just come to you. And I literally showed up at their house and there was like the most like, I walked. I feel like I walked into a dream. I was like in that phase where I was kind of tired and kind of like, okay, how much social energy will I have for this?

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And I walked in and there was the most amazing smell they were making, like a curry, like soup on the stove. It smells so good. The house is so cozy. Grace was like putting her baby down to sleep. And Liz let me in and they were like, oh, like Daniel's out picking up wine.

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And then he came back and we.

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All got to just hang out and like, we literally sat around in their living room and ate soup and made vision boards for.

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2025. Yeah.

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And I literally was like, I, we had a whole conversation because I was like, I think this is I was like, listen, I'm I'm doing my best at my vision board here, but I want to tell you, and this is the biggest honor that like, you guys are collectively my vision board right now. Like, this is what I want.

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I want community. And just like a cozy room, they had like lovely like like instrumental jazz music going.

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Speaker 3
And I was just I just want to be cozy with my friends. That's what I want.

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Speaker 1
I know I love that. I will say vision boarding has been like it's very hot this year. I gotta say, I'm smiling all over the place. I went to like a vision boarding girls night with my friend Preston. I'm actually leading a yoga retreat with and we're definitely doing vision boards there.

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Speaker 1
Holly here for

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a little shameless self-promotion,

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Speaker 1
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Speaker 1
I could not be more excited and I would love like it would be a dream come true to have some how the wise one grows listeners there. So this is your formal invitation. Please come to Costa Rica and create with us. There is a link in the show notes with all the info on how to sign up,

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Speaker 1
and now you can go back to listening to Kelly and I.

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Speaker 2
I was telling you.

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Speaker 3
Last week that I was like, Holly.

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Speaker 2
I you were the one who originally put me on to the Week Ahead Astrology podcast.

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Speaker 3
Yes. Last week when Holly and I.

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Speaker 2
Had our FaceTime, I was like, I don't know what's happening. I like.

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Specifically.

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Speaker 2
Took this weekend. I was like, I'm going to have I'm going to like, empower myself for the year, and I'm going to go on a long hike and I'm going to listen to hopefully a really uplifting, like podcast about how,

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Speaker 3
Well, this year will be. And the whole thing was just like, you better buckle up. It's going to be hard work. And I was like, buckle.

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Speaker 1
Up the first. Like, if you don't listen to astrology of the week ahead with Chani, do it. It is like my Monday ritual. I go on a walk and I listen to Chani and it's amazing. And, yeah, she's pretty much saying, like, the first quarter of the year is going to be a lot. There's so many planets, like shifting.

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Speaker 1
All this stuff is happening. It's going to be hard and come like June, I think June or July. I think it's.

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Speaker 3
June.

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Speaker 1
I think it like the biggest ships, I think end in April and then come June, like something's going on with Jupiter where like the work that you're putting in right now is going to pay off. And like, it might feel like that's a really long time away. But in the grand scheme of things like if you can start to get results for stuff, you're putting in the work now, like June isn't that far.

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Speaker 1
So like as hard as stuff feels right now, like focusing on what matters, focusing on like your communities, focusing on like the changes and growth that you want to see personally and as a community like we got to roll up our sleeves and like now is the time to do the work.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
And I really I, I did appreciate that. I feel like at first I was like.

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Speaker 3
I just want you to tell me that everything is going to be fun and easy and I've already done all the hard work I'll ever do. Yes.

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Speaker 2
But like I feel like genuinely, I'm definitely someone that's like. I mean, it's not like I revel in the idea of a lot of hard work coming up and, and difficulty or challenges that I need to face or whatever. But I do feel like I can handle anything, as long as I know that there is a, boundary to it where it's like there is going to be this end in sight.

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Speaker 2
There's a light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak.

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Speaker 2
And I feel like that was something where I was like, okay. Yeah. All right. And also I'm like that checks out. I feel like every year of my life, especially as someone now living in New England, it makes sense to me where I'm like, yeah, it's it's kind of always been that January. I'm looking ahead at the year and I'm like, one day it will be June and it will be warm.

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Speaker 3
And I'll be on the beach and I will be happy. It's not right now, but it will happen. Yes, I go good.

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Speaker 1
I'll give I'll fill in more details of this in a moment. But like since we last talked, there's been some shit that has happened.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 1
And, well, I guess I'll just say the shit that's been happening, and then I'll go to.

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Speaker 3
The the one.

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Speaker 1
Advice I've been telling myself and have had told to me.

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Speaker 3
But like I just.

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Speaker 1
So many times have like, and you people listening, you've probably seen this on Instagram. It's not my original thought, but it's hilarious and I would love to pretend that it is, that it's like, I've like, tried the 14 day trial of 2025 and I would like to unsubscribe. I'm like, definitely not interested. I've been like feeling that, saying that.

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Speaker 1
So not in that energy.

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Speaker 3
And a big,

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Speaker 1
Component that. So I was talking to my, meditation teacher, my about what had been going on, and she was like, yeah, and that's the life that you have. This is the life that's here. And we have to be here for all of it, even the shit, because this is the one we've got. And being with this can also bring the other stuff to book.

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Speaker 1
If you're not here for this, you're not here for your life. And yeah. How does that work? You know, so there's some shit going on. But this is the life we're here for. So how can we best be with it? And like, you know, those listening, I mean, you have to know about you. You already know. And I don't know what it will be like when this comes out.

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Speaker 1
But the California wildfires that are happening, like, my brother's in California and right after he's in LA, right after Kelly and I got off the phone last week, I got, like, very scary communication from my family that they had, like an emergency evacuation. It was like the way things were communicated made it feel very scary, like of their capacity to get out.

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Speaker 1
And I like lost it, like hyperventilating. It was just like so much my brother is fine. His loved ones all their fine. Their home is amazingly saved because firefighters were able to get up when the wind slowed down and drop water. And they're doing great right now. As great as they can and where they are as obviously horrific.

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Speaker 1
And I was, you know, I was just thinking about like, you know, he's just had his car packed. It's been like, you know, over a week of this where they just have their car packed with, like their go bag and like, yeah, they're ready to go at any moment. And it's just made me think like one. There's so many changes I'm going to go into.

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Speaker 1
But like, I think everyone should have a go bag now. I think like the environmental environment is here and I am quickly realizing that like any time I think someone is overreacting about something, they're actually right. Like the same week that the fire started in California. I live in Richmond and there was like a snowstorm coming, which for Richmond is like three inches of snow.

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Speaker 1
And I'm at the grocery store and I see these people like getting gallons and gallons of water and I'm like.

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Speaker 3
What are they doing? And that's so silly.

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Speaker 1
And then joke's on me. Richmond lost water. The city of Richmond, our water got messed up. We didn't have water for a week like it turns out. I definitely should have stocked up on some water. You know, like it's just wild. And then also last week, I had shared with Kelly, like, before, my dog had, like, a weird incident over the weekend.

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Speaker 1
I woke up in the morning like 4 a.m. Saturday. She had like wet the bed. I was like, okay, but she seemed totally fine. Spent the day it had snowed again. She played in the snow. She seemed fine. We left for a couple hours and came back and she had again wet herself and was doing this weird head Bobby thing, and I'm like, we got to go to the ER vet now, you know, this is something happening.

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Speaker 1
We go to the air vet and they take her bloodwork. She's wet herself multiple times. We're sitting in this room for like six hours and then that comes back in and it's like, well, she has zero platelets. Like, pretty much she's at risk of at high risk of sudden death at any moment. She is going to stay here for the next three days while we run tests and figure out what's going on.

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Speaker 1
And here's a bill for $6,500. And we were just wrenched like she was like my baby. Like I just was completely torn apart.

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Speaker 3
Of course, what we did.

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Speaker 1
And then I wake up in the morning, we get a phone call in the morning that they read the blood work wrong. And that was not true. And like, thank God, you know. But just like the emotional roller coaster of it all, like, and we still, you know, something's going on with her. We still don't know what we're figuring it out, but whatever it is isn't going to be as bad as what we thought.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, but I'm just like more and more I'm thinking about like, yes, like we are in a time of life where, like with the mental crisis, we do like, physically need these go bags, like, what do you need to grab and go? I am like all on board for like be overprepared because that tends to be the right thing.

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Speaker 1
Be the person that has the masks and the hand sanitizer and the water and the go bag ready to go. Like, I'd rather be that person at this point. And I'm just more and more acknowledging, like how much we need, like an emotional go bag, like what is our emotional go bag to deal with what we're dealing with?

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Speaker 1
Because it's.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:22:57:14 - 00:23:18:10
Speaker 1
It's so much all the time. And I was just kind of like thinking about what things have been helping me this week. Like what is my emotional go bag and like I'm curious what yours are too. But I feel like the more we can like, talk about those things and share those things, like that's going to help us all kind of navigate these times, because it's a lot.

00:23:18:10 - 00:23:22:16
Speaker 1
And I feel like everyone I'm talking to has had like a shit two weeks to, you know, or.

00:23:22:16 - 00:23:24:08
Speaker 3
More just.

00:23:24:10 - 00:23:26:09
Speaker 1
Yeah, I heard.

00:23:26:11 - 00:23:35:05
Speaker 2
Oh, absolutely. Well, first of all, I just I'm so sorry that that's me catching up in real time.

00:23:35:07 - 00:23:38:16
Speaker 3
You know, on the Luna satchel for baby.

00:23:38:18 - 00:24:03:11
Speaker 2
I'm just like, also, I. Yeah, I can't even imagine because this is just days on end of you getting, like, potentially, like, the worst news about family and the environmental disasters that are happening. And now your sweet pup and then having like, oh, actually, oh, actually, it's not as bad as it seems, but but actually we still don't have an answer for you.

00:24:03:11 - 00:24:10:17
Speaker 2
And like, it's just I think truly there is only so much of that any human can take.

00:24:10:19 - 00:24:11:23
Speaker 3
Before you do fully.

00:24:11:23 - 00:24:26:01
Speaker 2
Go, just like break it down like I. Yeah. So yeah, I would love to know if you have thought about it, like, is there something that you've been like, oh, this is, this is in my emotional man.

00:24:26:02 - 00:24:44:11
Speaker 1
I mean, like, you know, when I was like hyperventilating when I was figuring out what was going on with my brother, like, you know, I teach yoga in mindfulness, and I have been doing this for years. And like my husband sitting there like talking me through how to breathe and like.

00:24:44:13 - 00:24:45:09
Speaker 3
Yeah, I.

00:24:45:09 - 00:25:00:14
Speaker 1
Think like that is like the first and foremost thing that I like, keep coming to. And like it's no matter how much you know, you need to do the thing or how much you know the thing, sometimes when you're in that like acute moment, like it's not happening, you need someone to help you.

00:25:00:16 - 00:25:01:17
Speaker 2
So like.

00:25:01:19 - 00:25:24:18
Speaker 1
You know, just I 1,000% like breathwork is in my emotional go bag because it like our nervous systems are just on override and like, just like I try to do just like a box breath, which is a 4x4 breath for you, like inhale for four, hold for four, exhale for four, hold for four again. And I'm like, meditate every morning normally in bed.

00:25:24:18 - 00:25:46:21
Speaker 1
And like I do that I'll link a meditation of that in the show notes for people. But trying to like remember that. But it's also hard to like really stick to that stuff every day, especially when you feel depleted. I mean, I did this like I am doing a meditation challenge for this, like New Year 30 day thing.

00:25:46:21 - 00:26:16:22
Speaker 1
And, I've, I've had it a regular meditation for a while, but like, having a community that's like doing it too has felt so good. And it's like on the days that I've been like, I don't have it in me. I it's like, helped me do it and show up. And just like I've a lot of it has been playing like a yoga nidra meditation when I'm laying in bed at night feeling anxious and like I can't fall asleep like that, then helping me and helping me fall asleep.

00:26:17:00 - 00:26:35:18
Speaker 1
So like, that's a big one. So instead of just like scrolling on my phone at night when I'm feeling anxious or like just watching Gilmore Girls, like I normally do, I'm like, okay, I'm going to get a new book that I feel excited about. I'm going to read a new book. I'm a play. This meditation, I'm like, try to calm my nervous system down better.

00:26:36:08 - 00:26:52:14
Speaker 1
Holly, again, I've got a quick little note for you. I've added links to the show notes for a box breath meditation and a yoga nidra meditation for you to download, save, and add that to your emotional go bag because Lord knows we need it.

00:26:52:14 - 00:27:19:06
Speaker 1
We should probably release this episode soon, but we did an episode on Somatics, with Molly Bienstock, who they are incredible, incredible. And just, like, moving my body, I'm like, so like, that is what I need. In this last year, I've gotten really into, like, needing to dance to move my body. So I've been like going to the gym and like, getting on the elliptical and just full on, like dancing on the elliptical.

00:27:19:06 - 00:27:20:06
Speaker 1
And I'm like.

00:27:20:08 - 00:27:20:21
Speaker 3
Yeah, I.

00:27:20:21 - 00:27:29:06
Speaker 1
Think I'm crazy, but I'm listening to badass female artists and I am feeling myself. And this is like healing.

00:27:29:08 - 00:27:37:11
Speaker 2
What are what are like this? What are like the top three artists or songs that you're like, this is up.

00:27:37:11 - 00:27:42:02
Speaker 1
There, okay. The beaches, if you're a little bit conscious, I.

00:27:42:03 - 00:27:44:23
Speaker 3
Love beaches, love beaches.

00:27:45:01 - 00:27:47:05
Speaker 1
They have been like my go.

00:27:47:05 - 00:27:48:05
Speaker 3
Tos.

00:27:48:10 - 00:27:50:06
Speaker 1
Like they are.

00:27:50:08 - 00:27:52:04
Speaker 2
Blaine. Brett. Right? Do I have the right dance?

00:27:53:05 - 00:27:59:10
Speaker 1
What I want. Oh my god it's a cigaret. That's all I want to be is around girl band girl rock energy. That's like where I'm at.

00:27:59:10 - 00:28:00:10
Speaker 3
Yes.

00:28:00:12 - 00:28:01:13
Speaker 2
Okay. So like the.

00:28:01:13 - 00:28:02:08
Speaker 1
Beach is.

00:28:02:12 - 00:28:03:13
Speaker 2
Not on the vision board.

00:28:03:14 - 00:28:12:18
Speaker 1
The beaches and then also like obviously Beyonce because like you can't not have Beyonce in these times. So those have been like you.

00:28:12:19 - 00:28:16:13
Speaker 2
Going like Renaissance. Are you going cowboy Carter are you going OG.

00:28:16:14 - 00:28:38:16
Speaker 1
Like like going to love it. Like all of it. I'm just hitting Beyonce like girl whatever you got I'm here for this. And like wherever those two kind of lead me through Spotify after that, I'm like, loving it. I've really been on a super kick too, so I've just. Yes, I just need the women. I just need the women and the joy and the power and the strength that they're bringing.

00:28:38:18 - 00:28:48:02
Speaker 1
I need to fucking dance. And I'm like, yeah, I need to go to a club. So I'm like, I'm going to dance on the elliptical. And this is what's happening and it fucking works.

00:28:48:02 - 00:28:52:02
Speaker 2
I love that, I love it so much.

00:28:52:02 - 00:29:01:23
Speaker 2
I just saw like an Instagram video of this woman who is like just a reminder that your body doesn't know and it doesn't need to know if you are perfectly in rhythm or if you look silly or whatever.

00:29:01:23 - 00:29:25:13
Speaker 2
If you are literally jumping and shaking and moving your body like stress is working through the the stress cycle and everything. And I feel like that's such a good reminder because also, like, I love dancing and at the same time I've, I grew up dancing. So I feel like. So you like athletes certain.

00:29:25:15 - 00:29:26:05
Speaker 3
Well, but there's.

00:29:26:05 - 00:29:42:13
Speaker 2
Like a, there's a certain thing where I'm like, oh, I want to do it. Yeah, I want to do it right. It's almost like competitive where I'm like, and I was not a competitive dancer. That's a whole other level of like, yeah, incredible. I'm in all of those people. But just that I was like, I want to I want to really be good at this.

00:29:42:13 - 00:30:01:20
Speaker 2
And I feel like literally, yeah, that has been saving me, even literally in the car, like on my way to work in the morning this morning, I was listening to Talking Heads and David Bowie, and I was just like shaking from like, my torso up. And I was like, this is in a nice way. When I say shaking, that sounds like I like nervous system overload.

00:30:01:20 - 00:30:02:20
Speaker 2
I was just.

00:30:02:22 - 00:30:03:15
Speaker 1
Not even.

00:30:03:15 - 00:30:05:04
Speaker 3
In movement. And it's so good.

00:30:05:04 - 00:30:31:10
Speaker 1
For your nervous system. And if you like, you know, animals, like dogs, like they shake when they get kind of like, tilted with each other. And that's like such a good reset. My therapist, literally before the holidays, I was like, here's the can of worms that's happening. Like in this phase where it's like, I can communicate boundaries in like I can do all the things that I can do, but like, it doesn't mean the thing isn't going to keep happening.

00:30:31:10 - 00:30:50:14
Speaker 1
Right. So like so say you're doing all the things you're supposed to do. You're setting the boundaries. You're like taking care of yourself. You're doing whatever. But like the other people are, you don't control them. They're still going to do their other person thing. It's still coming at you. So she prescribed me this like, she's super into this thing called continuum dance.

00:30:50:14 - 00:30:57:03
Speaker 1
And it's this. Maybe I'll post this on Instagram. Will has warned me not to, but I feel like I probably should.

00:30:57:05 - 00:30:58:20
Speaker 3
It's just like we just dance.

00:30:58:20 - 00:31:11:19
Speaker 1
Or I'm just like, shiver like like like breathing. Really weird. Like brushing the energy off. And then you do, like a shiver up your spine and then you collapse onto the earth. Oh, and you do it like three times, and it's like just.

00:31:11:19 - 00:31:13:12
Speaker 3
Such a good move.

00:31:13:12 - 00:31:23:13
Speaker 1
Energy through your body and then just be held by the earth. Yeah. It's kind of like all we can do sometimes, dude.

00:31:23:15 - 00:31:24:06
Speaker 3
Literally.

00:31:24:06 - 00:31:53:21
Speaker 2
I'm like, I when you were saying earlier that, like, in your emotional go bag, part of it that's helping you is like listening to some yoga nidra stuff as you're going to bed, like, instead of being anxious, I'm like, I think as someone who has dealt because of some of the mental health challenges that I've had before, it has shown up in specifically the type of insomnia where I can go to sleep fine, but I wake up fully alert.

00:31:53:23 - 00:32:31:08
Speaker 2
My old therapist that I used to see years ago called it lightning in a bottle. Like when you seen something. It happened a lot after I witnessed a very bad car accident and she was like, this is your body processing trauma and it's your go. You're basically going into fight or flight mode and it's like, But when it happens at 3 a.m. every night and you have to wake up for the day and go to work at 530 in the morning, it's obviously not sustainable and I feel like there was just such, there was such a cycle that I got in and have been in different times in my life where I would do

00:32:31:08 - 00:32:49:11
Speaker 2
that thing where I would like, have that insomnia wake up in the middle of the night and then just feel immediately furious that I was awake. I was like immediately mad. And then because I was mad, I had like this angry energy that was not.

00:32:49:12 - 00:32:50:04
Speaker 3
Conducive.

00:32:50:04 - 00:32:52:07
Speaker 2
To me, just like going back to sleep.

00:32:52:09 - 00:32:55:01
Speaker 3
And I feel like truly.

00:32:55:03 - 00:33:12:16
Speaker 2
It's so funny. It's like one of those things like I'm sure you've seen the they're like a thousand different formats of this joke, but basically all the, all the things that are like, well, I'm so I'm devastated to report that after drinking more water, exercising more, getting more sleep, I do it in fact feel better.

00:33:12:16 - 00:33:19:00
Speaker 3
Like that is really what? I feel like that is so something specifically.

00:33:19:00 - 00:33:23:20
Speaker 2
With like moving my body where I have found it to be.

00:33:23:22 - 00:33:26:15
Speaker 3
So wildly helpful in my.

00:33:26:18 - 00:33:32:15
Speaker 2
Sleep and in like my anxiety levels where I'm like, God damn it.

00:33:32:17 - 00:33:35:01
Speaker 3
You like has been. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I.

00:33:35:01 - 00:33:58:00
Speaker 2
Can convince myself where I'm like, I don't have time to work out today, or I'm like, it's freezing out. I live in Connecticut and it's January. I'm not like my ideal. That's why I love the summer, because I'm like, I go to work and then I come back and I have hours of daylight so I can like, yeah, for a run or go for a bike ride, which really fills my spirit.

00:33:58:00 - 00:34:14:21
Speaker 2
So I like feel less encouraged to like go to the gym. But I love that idea of being like, go on the elliptical, put on your favorite music and just dance while you like. Literally. I'm like, I think I might do that after we record. I think that sounds great.

00:34:14:23 - 00:34:22:22
Speaker 1
Literally. Please do. It is I love that magic. And I like, cannot I report math? Yes. Please report back. We need to. Yes.

00:34:22:22 - 00:34:23:19
Speaker 3
But I like.

00:34:23:21 - 00:34:53:05
Speaker 1
Cannot function without movement. Like I think it helps my ADHD a lot on my I think it I mean it just helps my mental. I exercise for my mental health and I don't like unwell when I'm not. And it's been really hard this week because I've been like so emotionally drained and tired and like not wanting to do that, but I've like forced myself to and lo and behold, I feel better after.

00:34:53:05 - 00:34:54:21
Speaker 1
And it's like, all right.

00:34:54:21 - 00:34:55:02
Speaker 3
You.

00:34:55:02 - 00:35:05:05
Speaker 1
Know, once once you feel it, it's like, okay, you want to do it more. Once you start feeling good, it's like, okay, well, I'm like chasing, you know, like a high you're chasing.

00:35:05:06 - 00:35:35:16
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's so funny. My mom like, I think kind of randomly. I don't think that I could be wrong. I don't think that this was like a specific intention for her going into the new year, but she kind of randomly started walk ING a ton every day. And then after like a week of being like, oh, just like by accident, I had like three days in a row of four days in a row of like, friends asking if I wanted to go for a walk, and they ended up being long walks.

00:35:35:16 - 00:35:48:15
Speaker 2
She was like, I'm loving this. She was like, I feel like it's actually kind of like a high. And I was like, yeah, endorphin. Like I was like, that's why it's a runner's high. And she's like, I didn't know that was happening.

00:35:48:16 - 00:35:49:20
Speaker 1
I was like, endorphins make.

00:35:49:20 - 00:35:57:22
Speaker 3
You feel good and endorphins like, you feel good. Oh what are queens. Yeah.

00:35:58:00 - 00:36:17:12
Speaker 2
Yeah I just yeah. But I but it's so funny because I'm like again I've, I've known that for years and I've known that for me specifically and for my body and for my brain, it's like the best thing I can do. And I still even literally just now being like, I think I might go do that after this.

00:36:17:16 - 00:36:19:16
Speaker 2
Like immediately after I was like.

00:36:19:18 - 00:36:22:06
Speaker 3
Emma, but it is almost seven.

00:36:22:06 - 00:36:25:12
Speaker 2
And I did make. Yeah, and I have a glass of wine here.

00:36:25:12 - 00:36:29:02
Speaker 3
So, so it's like, it's like, hey, if you don't.

00:36:29:02 - 00:36:49:15
Speaker 1
Do it after this too, but also like, what if you just, like, danced in your kitchen for five minutes, you know, literally what if you just, like, gave it, like the tiniest bit and then tomorrow you're like, okay, I have this time carved out that I'm going to do that thing. Yeah, but I think that's also stopping us.

00:36:49:17 - 00:37:04:12
Speaker 1
Is that like, kind of like you were saying, like not wanting to dance because you want to do it so well, but it's like sometimes it's just like showing up. So maybe it's just like I need to in my go bag is showing up for movement every day. But that does not mean going to the gym every day.

00:37:04:18 - 00:37:11:00
Speaker 1
That does not mean go on a run. That might mean standing and and shaking my body out for ten minutes.

00:37:11:00 - 00:37:11:15
Speaker 2
Or yeah.

00:37:11:16 - 00:37:13:18
Speaker 1
That's 10s.

00:37:13:20 - 00:37:15:06
Speaker 3
Changing my body.

00:37:15:08 - 00:37:15:20
Speaker 1
But ten.

00:37:15:20 - 00:37:39:17
Speaker 3
Minutes, then you really working on some stuff? It's like dissociating off like. Yes. I mean, I mean, been there. I might probably be there again. Yeah. We'll check back in next week. Holly is like, I did it. I'm still shaking next Tuesday. I can't stop. Actually, I also it's so real.

00:37:39:20 - 00:38:02:18
Speaker 1
My body's nervous response is shaking like that night with Luna. Like I just like I'm hearing the vet say all this stuff and I just start shaking and then in bed at night, like, I just like I woke up in the middle of the night, somehow fell asleep, woke up and just, like, uncontrollably shaking. And we'll just had to, like, wrap me in, like, just like, hold me till my body would, like, settle.

00:38:02:19 - 00:38:04:06
Speaker 1
So, like.

00:38:04:07 - 00:38:04:10
Speaker 3
The.

00:38:04:10 - 00:38:08:01
Speaker 1
Body was saying, please move this shit through me because I cannot.

00:38:08:01 - 00:38:13:23
Speaker 3
Process. Yeah, it's so wild.

00:38:13:23 - 00:38:46:01
Speaker 2
And I'm like, yeah, I think, I think that is such a beautiful reminder. Also for me specifically, like this last year getting like officially diagnosed with ADHD, which I feel like I have known that I've had in some capacity but didn't didn't. I guess I will say I was like functioning through it in a way where I was like, well, I generally know how to, eventually get my tasks done.

00:38:46:03 - 00:38:46:16
Speaker 2
So it's I.

00:38:46:16 - 00:38:48:11
Speaker 1
Know how to manage it, I have it, I.

00:38:48:11 - 00:39:14:18
Speaker 2
Know how to manage it, but also had no idea until literally like getting diagnosis, starting to see a therapist again, which I had desperately needed and wanted for quite a long time since moving to Connecticut. And like working through this and then also like starting medication for it and like all of these things that I was like, there's an easier world that I like.

00:39:14:19 - 00:39:47:19
Speaker 2
It's not even easier. It's not like I like press, like take a pill and everything gets better. It's just like there is. It's I sometimes forget and this is like what I want to remember and hold on to going forward. This year, I sometimes get so in my head of like, I'm doing what I can to survive. So that's that's all I can do and that's all I need to do and whatever that, I forget that there's a whole other room to that house of life in which I get to thrive.

00:39:47:21 - 00:39:55:17
Speaker 2
But I'm like, not even thinking that that's a possibility. So I'm just like, it's fine, it's fine. I'm managing. I'm. I'm doing what I can. And it's.

00:39:55:17 - 00:39:57:05
Speaker 3
Like, hang on.

00:39:57:07 - 00:40:15:22
Speaker 2
Because going back to, like, what you said, like, maybe you don't go to the gym every day. Maybe you, like, stand like, set a timer for ten minutes and like, shake around. Literally. I did that last week. I was like really starting to beat myself up because I had been like, after work, you're going straight to the gym.

00:40:16:00 - 00:40:25:04
Speaker 2
And then I was like, in reality, I brought like my laptop and my guitar to work, and I don't want to bring those and just like, have them sitting in the parking lot of the gym. So I'm.

00:40:25:04 - 00:40:26:03
Speaker 3
Not. So I'm going to.

00:40:26:03 - 00:40:31:23
Speaker 2
Go home first. But I'm my house is so close to the gym. And of course, I pulled in and the moment I got it and I was like, it's.

00:40:31:23 - 00:40:38:04
Speaker 3
So cold, I don't want to go back out in the car and back at the chains. And then I immediately.

00:40:38:04 - 00:40:55:18
Speaker 2
Went into like being mad at myself because I was like, you made this commitment and you're already giving up on it and whatever. And I was like, literally my like, the thing that I had said was, move your body for 30 minutes. And I did that where I was like, you know what, I really need to make dinner.

00:40:55:20 - 00:41:00:05
Speaker 3
I'm going to put on my little like old lady ankle weights and.

00:41:00:11 - 00:41:10:18
Speaker 2
Dance around the kitchen while I make dinner. And my meal took me like basically 20 minutes. And then I ate and, like, moved around for ten minutes and like, was like.

00:41:10:20 - 00:41:11:20
Speaker 3
That was great.

00:41:11:22 - 00:41:14:22
Speaker 1
And you did it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:15:00 - 00:41:24:17
Speaker 2
But yeah, I'm I guess I'm realizing with so much of this last year and moving forward into 2025 that I'm like, man.

00:41:24:17 - 00:41:27:03
Speaker 3
Setting like.

00:41:27:05 - 00:41:43:20
Speaker 2
Reasonable expectations for yourself and like making goals for yourself that are I I absolutely am like we can not to, what what's the, plagiarize. We can do hard things, but I'm like, we.

00:41:43:20 - 00:41:50:01
Speaker 3
Can do hard things. We can. And we also like love. We can do our things. We can and we do.

00:41:50:05 - 00:41:59:09
Speaker 2
But I just I feel like it's like I constantly have to remind myself that it's like I can do really, really fucking hard things. I just.

00:41:59:09 - 00:42:00:13
Speaker 3
Also don't.

00:42:00:13 - 00:42:05:04
Speaker 2
Have to do them in 1 in 1 go.

00:42:05:04 - 00:42:06:06
Speaker 1
Like, yes.

00:42:06:06 - 00:42:24:19
Speaker 2
The things that are worth doing in the long run takes so much steady persistence, time and attention, and it's like a crumb at a time of just like you keep like you said, you keep showing up. Yeah. And that's just like, okay.

00:42:24:21 - 00:42:25:21
Speaker 3
That's what I want.

00:42:25:23 - 00:42:27:14
Speaker 2
I want to just keep showing up.

00:42:27:16 - 00:42:28:21
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:42:28:23 - 00:42:53:22
Speaker 1
And I love like so many things about what you said. And like, first of all, that. Like, we can do so much more than survive this, you know, like, right now, survival feels so like, just like the baseline. And it's all you can focus on is like surviving and breathing through this day to day souled. That is do it.

00:42:53:23 - 00:42:56:01
Speaker 1
Absolutely. That is where you get to.

00:42:56:02 - 00:42:57:10
Speaker 2
You're doing wonderful.

00:42:57:12 - 00:42:58:08
Speaker 3
Yes, that is.

00:42:58:08 - 00:43:11:09
Speaker 1
More than enough. That is 100%. And we also do deserve to thrive. So like what? Like, you know like how can we find that? How can we thrive even when shit is hard as hell? And like.

00:43:12:05 - 00:43:40:08
Speaker 1
There's there's capacity for that too. And wherever you're at in it too is a part of it. Like if you're in the survival thing, guess what? You have to survive to thrive eventually. So like focus on the surviving. And I was yeah, reflecting with my, my meditation teacher too. We were talking about like, everything that had been going on in this reminds me of what you were saying about, like, we set this intention for the year.

00:43:40:08 - 00:43:55:20
Speaker 1
We have all our goals. And I was even like showing up, talking about mine. Like my year's going to be like a slide. I'm going to have fun. It's going to be about like letting go and trust and surrender and going deeper and then she.

00:43:55:20 - 00:43:57:15
Speaker 3
Was like, yeah.

00:43:57:17 - 00:44:31:00
Speaker 1
And maybe it's not that fun all the time. You know, like letting go of a slide is scary. Maybe you're putting way too much pressure and expectation on things to be a certain way. But like the flip side of it is, letting go is hard. Trusting is hard. Falling is scary. And she was pretty much like, my wish is for you to experience your capacity to handle each moment as it's happening, and that your awareness allows you to hold that.

00:44:31:02 - 00:44:53:11
Speaker 1
So like this bubble of awareness is like this slide that's like holding me as, like all the life stuff is happening and like truthfully, like when we got that Luna information and I feel so silly too, that like, I'm that distraught about my dog when people in California are losing their pets in their homes and their loved ones and it's so, so intense.

00:44:53:13 - 00:45:06:04
Speaker 1
And I just, I just but I did it was really intense for me. And I just like, looked at myself in the mirror and was just like, turns out you can handle whatever you have to handle.

00:45:06:06 - 00:45:09:00
Speaker 3
Like, you, you just.

00:45:09:00 - 00:45:10:12
Speaker 2
Here, you've done it up until this.

00:45:10:12 - 00:45:10:23
Speaker 1
Point.

00:45:11:01 - 00:45:11:14
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:45:11:16 - 00:45:35:22
Speaker 1
And it was like, I handled it better than I thought I would, you know, like, I thought I would have completely lost it, but I was like, I actually handled it well. And because I had to. And you will continue to handle whatever you have to handle, even if it isn't fun. Don't waste your energy resisting it. Just like put your energy towards dealing with it.

00:45:36:00 - 00:45:38:11
Speaker 3
Yes.

00:45:38:13 - 00:45:39:06
Speaker 2
I love that.

00:45:39:06 - 00:45:40:15
Speaker 3
I.

00:45:40:17 - 00:45:48:19
Speaker 2
I also want to just say, for the record, that because I do this to.

00:45:48:21 - 00:45:49:10
Speaker 3
So.

00:45:49:10 - 00:45:58:15
Speaker 2
Much like you said, that you feel silly about feeling that way about Luna in comparison, which I completely understand.

00:45:58:17 - 00:45:59:06
Speaker 3
But it is.

00:45:59:06 - 00:46:32:06
Speaker 2
Totally one of those things where it's like in that moment you were faced with news that's like the love of your life, your baby Luna, your baby dog Luna. It sounds like the way they presented it was like she may go any minute like this, whatever. But she's like on the brink of a terrible thing. And I feel like there is no it's very similar to how you were saying, like you found out like, oh, okay, my body shakes when it gets this information.

00:46:32:06 - 00:46:52:20
Speaker 2
It's like to your body in that moment, you're not you're not like safer than other people are. And therefore you should not feel as much about it. You know what I'm like I it's absolutely it's fucking everything that's happening in California is devastating.

00:46:52:20 - 00:46:56:14
Speaker 3
Everything that's happening all over the world all the time.

00:46:56:16 - 00:47:24:17
Speaker 2
Like there is so much. But I feel like just to have, again, part of that bubble be like, right now I'm dealing with something that in my world is devastating and so scary and trying to show up for Luna, show up for my husband. He's showing up for me, I'm showing up for myself, like, whatever. And again, just to get through that moment and be like, I did that.

00:47:24:18 - 00:47:35:02
Speaker 2
And then also to be able to have the space to, like you said, kind of like look at yourself in the mirror and be like, I actually did a good job with that and acknowledge that I think is.

00:47:35:04 - 00:47:37:09
Speaker 3
So massive.

00:47:37:11 - 00:48:02:14
Speaker 2
And like it. This is a whole other we could go in a different direction, but I, I will say I'll save the full story of that for another time. But I to summarize, I'm in a songwriting course right now. That's through the month of January, which has been so incredible. We got to talk about it at some point.

00:48:02:17 - 00:48:35:22
Speaker 2
But I will say a big part of that and the theme that has been going on through that is, again, just showing up and being like on every homework assignment. What I love is that you pick the time. There are like a variety of options. It's like over zoom and you pick one of the times that work for you on Saturday and, every week under the home assignment for the song share portion, it's like, what?

00:48:36:03 - 00:49:00:09
Speaker 2
You know, what the assignment is when it's due. And then like, there's a little thing that's like, but how do I know when my song is actually done? And then under it, it's just like your song is done when you show up to the song. Share. So whatever it is, it's done. You finished it. Like what? And and they always have a thing that's like, remember, a song can be as little as one word, like it's that's a song.

00:49:00:09 - 00:49:00:21
Speaker 2
You did it.

00:49:01:13 - 00:49:12:04
Speaker 2
And I feel like just, I don't know, it's been really it's been really lovely and really helpful as someone again, we can get into it so much.

00:49:12:04 - 00:49:13:06
Speaker 1
But yeah.

00:49:13:08 - 00:49:39:15
Speaker 2
I've been dealing with, significant creative and writer's block for years at this point, and that has been so healing to just be like, I just show up and you know what? I it may not be a work of genius art, but it's it's me proving to myself that I can show up and I can do it and like, just like, hey, you did that.

00:49:39:17 - 00:50:03:13
Speaker 2
And a little, like a little victory for me today. Was that one of the songs that I'm working on? I was writing it, and I was starting to write this verse about how, like basically kind of looking back and being like, oh, I used to be someone that I would really like, be proud of and really trust and would admire if I were someone else.

00:50:03:13 - 00:50:10:23
Speaker 2
Like we. Holly, we've talked about this of like all the things that you're going through, you can be so critical to yourself. But if.

00:50:11:20 - 00:50:23:12
Speaker 2
I came to you being like, the exact same things are happening to me, you would. You would give me so much grace and be so proud of all the work I've done and whatever, and vice versa.

00:50:23:14 - 00:50:29:06
Speaker 3
And I maybe this is a sweet little way to end.

00:50:29:08 - 00:50:47:01
Speaker 2
Like for today. Or maybe going forward is just like a little victory that you like something that has got a little bright, but because that was something where today I was working on this, and I already felt like a little victory to be working on this song. Also, I'm definitely not something I'm like, I love really sad songs.

00:50:47:01 - 00:50:56:14
Speaker 2
So I was not. I wasn't, discouraged by it being a verse about like I used to be someone I was proud of and I used to be someone I could trust. And what.

00:50:56:14 - 00:51:01:14
Speaker 3
Went wrong. And then I kind of had this moment where I was like, wait, I can.

00:51:01:14 - 00:51:23:09
Speaker 2
Literally just switch this word from I was to I am and I. And then the verse became, I am someone, I am someone I would be proud of. I am someone I could trust, and I'm like, wait, that like, I feel like it just did this, like really like great healing thing for all the younger versions of me.

00:51:23:09 - 00:51:29:09
Speaker 2
I was just like, I needed that and I am I am proud of myself in the work I'm doing and yeah.

00:51:29:09 - 00:51:34:08
Speaker 3
And so I'm like, yeah, wait not was calm still am.

00:51:34:10 - 00:51:38:09
Speaker 1
You like get to continue write the story as you're writing it you know.

00:51:38:09 - 00:51:38:21
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:51:38:21 - 00:52:04:08
Speaker 1
That's what you did. That's so beautiful. I love victory. Little victory okay. Little victory is like kind of similar, tone. And that like I have felt I have been working on this like book of like poetry and mindfulness practices that are like I'm someone who's like done a morning routine for a year and I wanted to create it as like a book.

00:52:04:08 - 00:52:10:10
Speaker 1
And I just put all this like pressure on myself about, like I wanted it published. I wanted it to be. I would tell myself, I'm going to.

00:52:10:10 - 00:52:10:22
Speaker 3
Put a New.

00:52:10:22 - 00:52:15:17
Speaker 1
York Times bestseller out there. Like, that's a really good way to not putting anything out there.

00:52:15:18 - 00:52:17:22
Speaker 2
Oh my God, preach.

00:52:18:00 - 00:52:20:04
Speaker 3
And, I at.

00:52:20:04 - 00:52:40:15
Speaker 1
The beginning of this year was like from a lot of encouragement from like my brother in law and sister, they're like to just like make it an e-book and make it like chill. So I just, like, made it like a 28 day, like Creative Wellness workbook where it's like everything I already did, but it's like giving space for you to work through it.

00:52:40:15 - 00:52:43:23
Speaker 1
And I, like finished the first draft today and I was like.

00:52:44:04 - 00:52:48:19
Speaker 3
I'm actually gonna put this out there and I yes. Holly so.

00:52:48:19 - 00:53:14:07
Speaker 1
Excited. And I feel like like I felt like not putting that out there has like creatively blocked me. So much because, like, it has to be out there to continue to get your creativity flowing. So I am just so excited to put it out there. And I this is also like just something that I have been thinking of as helping me get through this chapter of 2025.

00:53:14:07 - 00:53:33:19
Speaker 1
Is that like the Lunar New Year and the Chinese New Year starts January 29th on the new moon? And I am saying that is my new year, and that's what I'm going to like, try to put it out there and it's like, here's this like fresh start. Here's like a little challenge for other people to like, work through their creativity to get into like, oh my.

00:53:33:19 - 00:53:34:10
Speaker 3
Gosh.

00:53:34:10 - 00:53:42:21
Speaker 1
Some of these practices. And I am very you know, it's not I will it's a big victory. So I'll take that big victory.

00:53:42:21 - 00:53:49:06
Speaker 3
Yes. It's a huge victory thing. Absolutely. Oh my gosh.

00:53:49:06 - 00:54:05:14
Speaker 2
I'm so excited to read that. And do it like that. Is oh I love that so much. And also it is one of those things where it's like, I forget this sometimes where I'm like, wait, literally putting it. Also, if you put it out as an e-book and whatever, like.

00:54:05:16 - 00:54:06:14
Speaker 3
Who's to say.

00:54:06:18 - 00:54:13:12
Speaker 2
You? You may be like, you know what? I actually have more that I want to add to this. And other people might you you might.

00:54:13:12 - 00:54:14:07
Speaker 1
Oh yeah.

00:54:14:09 - 00:54:25:06
Speaker 2
Collaboration that you're like, actually, I think one day down the road this is going to become like, you. You may still be New York Times bestselling author Alexander.

00:54:25:07 - 00:54:27:04
Speaker 3
Things, but like that is.

00:54:27:06 - 00:54:29:05
Speaker 2
That's you have to start like you have.

00:54:29:05 - 00:54:30:02
Speaker 3
To,

00:54:30:04 - 00:54:31:02
Speaker 1
You have to share.

00:54:31:03 - 00:54:49:16
Speaker 2
So I'm so there with you. I've had this like phrase in my brain that I'm like, how? How to work through this. Literally. I've been like, I feel creatively constipated for so long.

00:54:49:18 - 00:54:55:01
Speaker 1
That is the perfect phrasing. Why are people not saying that for it's ups?

00:54:55:12 - 00:55:06:04
Speaker 3
Literally, I'm like, we need like a creativity. We were literally like when we were talking last week about like, what do we want the the vibe to be is like what?

00:55:06:04 - 00:55:09:21
Speaker 2
And we were like, we really want like creativity and whatever.

00:55:09:21 - 00:55:11:12
Speaker 3
And like all of this stuff.

00:55:11:12 - 00:55:28:02
Speaker 2
And I also always am just like nerdy about like, I love alliteration and whatever. And I was like, oh, that's fun. And I'm like, I don't want the vibe to be creative. Constipation. That's what I'm trying to get away from it. Just so like it just happens that it's like a catchy catchphrase.

00:55:28:03 - 00:55:35:01
Speaker 3
It's amazing. And also, we do some creative content. Yes.

00:55:35:03 - 00:55:39:23
Speaker 1
We'll come up with a cool iteration to un creatively constipated ourselves.

00:55:40:01 - 00:55:42:09
Speaker 3
But sometimes you're creative and constipated.

00:55:42:09 - 00:55:46:18
Speaker 1
And I'm totally going to say not bless you Kelly. Yeah. The levity.

00:55:46:18 - 00:55:50:10
Speaker 1
Okay, I cannot resist the opportunity to use Kelly's

00:55:50:10 - 00:56:05:19
Speaker 1
amazing, creatively constipated phrasing to promote my new 28 day Creative Wellness Challenge e-book. So this book is going to be like your miralax to get, creatively constipated and create a life you love.

00:56:05:18 - 00:56:37:23
Speaker 1
So I've been working on this book for years, and it's honestly created from my daily wellness practices, and it's designed to help you slow down, reconnect, and nurture your wellbeing and creativity. Each day you'll find a poetic affirmation, a reflection, a mindfulness practice, and a creative practice that are all 11 minutes or less to help you create a sustainable morning routine and ritual that allows you to tap into your creative spirit and cultivate wellness in your life.

00:56:38:01 - 00:56:52:22
Speaker 1
And I truly believe that the world needs more creative tivity and more wellness and mindfulness practices to find solutions to the problems that we're facing, to take care of ourselves and one another as we move through it.

00:56:52:21 - 00:56:55:19
Speaker 1
How the Eyes on Grows listeners, I love you so much.

00:56:55:19 - 00:57:09:00
Speaker 1
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00:57:09:01 - 00:57:09:12
Speaker 2
And it always.

00:57:09:12 - 00:57:10:15
Speaker 3
Comes back to poop stuff.

00:57:10:15 - 00:57:21:05
Speaker 1
So always comes back to poop stuff. And yeah, I want to end up on the poop stuff. But I do just want to say one more thing that's like poopy,

00:57:21:07 - 00:57:37:21
Speaker 1
But just for like the listeners, I feel like the, the homework or just like the number one thing to put in your go bag is just like showing up. I feel like that's where we're getting to, like, it doesn't matter what's in the bag. It doesn't matter what stuff you say you're going to do if you don't show up for them.

00:57:37:21 - 00:57:51:05
Speaker 1
So like, and just showing up. Yeah. For the hard shit that we're moving through this year, like, all we can do is show up. So let's just keep showing up and come June, let's be uncreative, like constipated.

00:57:51:07 - 00:57:54:09
Speaker 2
As always. I'm like, I just feel.

00:57:54:11 - 00:57:55:03
Speaker 3
I feel like.

00:57:55:03 - 00:57:58:23
Speaker 2
I just positively shook for ten minutes.

00:57:59:01 - 00:58:05:13
Speaker 1
Yeah, this. I'm just like little shake. Maybe it in a shake break for people during this episode.

00:58:05:13 - 00:58:09:06
Speaker 3
Where we're just, like, have a little shake break, break.

00:58:09:06 - 00:58:13:21
Speaker 1
Hello, it's Kelly. Holly and I thought we would extend an invitation for you to take a beat.

00:58:13:21 - 00:58:33:09
Speaker 1
Now that you've finished this episode, put on your favorite song and just have a little baby shake break. And if you feel so inclined, please let us know what your current go to dance party songs are. You can send us a message at how the Y's one grows on Instagram and Yogurt Blast. Happy shaking.